Phrygians, ancestors of the Kurds

Origins of Kurds are still a mystery for most of the historians, and since Kurds are currently stuck in the middle of a very hot political situation, it is highly unlikely that any serious research will be made in the near future.

But even Kurdish historians seem to fast-forward the early origins of their nation. Here is an example from the website of Kurdish Institute of Paris:

“Historians generally agree to consider them as belonging to the Iranian branch of the large family of Indo-European races. In prehistoric times, kingdoms of Mitanni, Kassites and Hourites reigned these mountainous areas, situated between the Iranian plateau and the Euphrates. In VII BC, the Medes – the Kurds’ equivalent of the Gauls for the French, founded an empire which, in 612 BC, conquered the powerful Assyria and spread its domination through the whole of Iran as well as central Anatolia. The date 612 BC, is moreover, considered by Kurdish nationalists as the beginning of the 1st Kurdish year

One thing that grabbed my attention, and made me research more on Kurdish origins is the fact that Kurds seem to have an extremely high percentage of haplogroup I2 (20%), a haplogroup characteristic for Southern Europe. This is the data taken from


This haplogroup is considered to be a mesolithic haplogroup of ancient Europeans and its current distribution looks like this:


Even though it’s epicenter is in the countries of ex-Yugoslavia and Sardinia, there is a certain presence of I2 haplogroup in northern parts of Turkey. However, this percentage gets “watered down” in statistics for the whole country, so Turkey in total ends up with only insignificant 4%.

Since the presence of I2 in Turkey has to be a result of some ancient migration I started to look for suspects. One thing pointed to a possible clue – one of the Kurdish groups is called Gorani, and: “The name may be derived from the old Avestan word, gairi, which means mountain“. But there is another group of people with the same name living in Balkans in the triangle between Albania, Kosovo and Macedonia. For this “Balkan” Gorani, the article also says: “The ethnonym Gorani, meaning “highlanders”, is derived from the Slavic toponym gora, which means “hill, mountain“.

A strange coincidence?

Next step was to look at the Kurdish dictionaries available online, and of course, I was able to notice many similarities with Balkan languages. A common Indo-European origin can explain these connections to some extent, but not in all cases. For example, the pronoun “I” is “Az” in Kurdish, and the only existing parallel survives in modern Bulgarian “Az”, and somewhat Macedonian “Jas”. Origins of this word are Thracian – and Thracians were ancient people of Balkans whose dominant haplogroup was surely I2.

However, Thracians were not exclusively I2, as we know that Scythian tribes had brought R1a and R1b haplogroups to Balkans as early as 4th millennium BC. But as you can see on the chart above, those are also the second most dominant haplogroups of the Kurds. This means that matching with ancient Thracians of Balkans could be much higher than those 20% of I2, which is already a lot! However, this is a question for a serious genetic research that would be able to make definitive answer by following the respective mutations. I do not possess this data, so I will move to the firmer grounds of history.

The question is, is there any historical evidence of ancient migration of Balkan population to this part of the world. And the answer is yes. It appears already in the 5th century BC writings of Herodotus, in his account on Phrygians:

“As the Macedonians say, these Phrygians were called Briges as long as they dwelt in Europe, where they were neighbors of the Macedonians; but when they changed their home to Asia, they changed their name also and were called Phrygians.Hdt. 7.73

As we see, Herodotus believed that Phrygians were once neighbors of Macedonians, just like Gorani people are today, and he also states that they were called “Brigi”. This word may be related to the word “breg”, meaning hill – just another synonym for the word “gora”.

Truth be told, there are historians who support this claim of Herodotus, as well as those who oppose it. But it is interesting that map of ancient Phrygia matches almost perfectly a current distribution of I2 in Turkey, pictured above.

phrygia map.jpg

And not only that, as we can see on the article on Phrygian language, a famous Phrygian word (mentioned by Herodotus) is bekos, meaning “bread”, while in Albanian language bread is “bukë”. According to Clement of Alexandria, the Phrygian word bedu (βέδυ) meaning “water” (PIE *wed) appeared in Orphic ritual. Slavic cognate is “voda”. Another possible theonym is bago- (cf. Slavic bog, “god”). We know that Phrygians had also worshiped Sabazios, one of the main gods of Thracians.

Moreover, the name of the most famous Phrygian city, Gordion, could be related to Slavic “grad”, meaning simply “city”, as it also meant in Phrygian according to Paleolexicon:


So what else do we know about this supposed migration of Balkan Brigi to Phrygia in Turkey? This is a short extract from Wikipedia:

After the collapse of the Hittite Empire at the beginning of the twelfth century BC, the political vacuum in central-western Anatolia was filled by a wave of Indo-European migrants and “Sea Peoples”, including the Phrygians, who established their kingdom with a capital eventually at Gordium. It is presently unknown whether the Phrygians were actively involved in the collapse of the Hittite capital Hattusa or whether they simply moved into the vacuum left by the collapse of Hittite hegemony. The Handmade Knobbed Ware was found by archaeologists at sites from this period in Western Anatolia.

According to Greek mythographers, the first Phrygian Midas had been king of the Moschi (Mushki), also known as Bryges (Brigi) in the western part of archaic Thrace.

And then it states:

Though the migration theory is still defended by many modern historians, most archaeologists have abandoned the migration hypothesis regarding the origin of the Phrygians due to a lack substantial archaeological evidence, with the migration theory resting only on the accounts of Herodotus and Xanthus.

There are two things worth pointing out here:

1. If Phrygian migration had happened around 12th century BC with the waves of “Sea peoples”, that also matches perfectly the high distribution of I2 in Sardinia.

2. “Mushki” literary means “men” in Balkans. This is a very suitable name for the ancient tribe of warriors. Tribes known as “men”, “people” or “warriors” existed all across the ancient world, regardless of their origin.

So if Phrygians had really migrated from Balkans to Turkey in the 12th century BC, how are they related to Kurds, and what are they doing all the way southeast?

Herodotus may give us another clue for that:

“The Armenians, who are settlers from Phrygia, were armed like the Phrygians” Hdt. 7.73.1

This is another controversial claim of Herodotus that has also divided the scientific circles. Why would Phrygians migrate again, all the way to Armenia? Well, if we look at their history, there might be a very good excuse for that. Wikipedia on Phrygians:

“The invasion of Anatolia in the late 8th century BC to early 7th century BC by the Cimmerians was to prove fatal to independent Phrygia. Cimmerian pressure and attacks culminated in the suicide of its last king, Midas, according to legend. Gordium fell to the Cimmerians in 696 BC and was sacked and burnt, as reported much later by Herodotus.”

Well, to me this seems like a pretty good reason for a migration. But can we really relate it to Kurds? Maybe we can. It is hypothesized that the word “Kurd” could originate from the Persian word gord, because the Arabic script lacks a symbol corresponding uniquely to g (گ). In this case Kurds would simple be “people from Gordium”. Moreover, some theories also relate the etymology to toponym Corduene, (also written as “Gordyene”) mentioned by Xenophon. This time Gordyene appears right on the territory of Armenia, where Herodotus said they would be. This is also the general area where Kurds are present today.


Map of the Armenian Empire of Tigranes

Could it be just a coincidence that Gordium fell in 696 BC, while Kurds take 612 BC as the birth of their nation? Also, Kurds relate themselves to people known as Mitanni. At least three Phrygian kings, including the last one, were named Midas (in Assyrian sources spelled Mita).

So there you go. Phrygian migration, as described here is in fact nothing new for historians, but I haven’t seen any similar theory relating it to Kurdish origins. It is also worth a mention that Phrygian mode in music is also known as “Kurdish” in the Arabic world. However, I am not saying that Kurds of today, after two and a half millennia, are genetically or culturally the same as Phrygians. But maybe this is the way to trace their ancestry, as well to explain what has happened to Phrygians after the fall of their kingdom. I am also not reducing Armenian culture and history solely to Kurdish influence, it is definitely much more complicated than that. In any case, take it all with a grain of salt, do your research and decide for yourselves if it makes sense or not.


  1. Madai

    which means measure, judging, or middle land, was a descendant of Noah through Japheth. He is listed as the third son of Japheth in the Bible. He is located on the Biblical Timeline after the Great Flood.
    According to the Book of Jubilees, he married the daughter of Shem and pleaded with the three brothers of his wife to let him live in their land instead of occupying an area in Japheth’s land. They gave him a spot to dwell on with his family and it was later on named Media.
    He was associated with different nations such as the Mitanni, the Iranian Medes, the Kachin, the Kurd, and the Medes. The Mitanni and the Medes were Indo-Aryan nations. Media and Medes Media was an ancient city situated at the northwest of Iran and south of Azerbaijan.

    Medes were migrants who occupied the north of Thrace. – See more at:

  2. This seems completely hilereous and is far from reality. Kurdish ancestors are the Hurrians of the Mittani kingdom those capital labored in today’s west/Rojava Kurdistan.

    HURRIANS (3000-1500 BC) even called Khurrites is ancestors of the Kurds and they lived in the historical Kurdistan’s geography. They bulit even a new empire called Mitanni in the same area.

    The meaning of the word of Hurrian:

    The word is derived from: Kur and means montain. The sumerians called the people who lived in the historical Kurdistan’s highland, in Zagros mountain, for; Kur-ti, which means mountain’s people: Kur = mountain, ti = possesive and adjective building supplement. (G.C.)

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